Part 8: Continuation of Comments from "Flat Earth is a CIA..." and More Email Discussions with a Friend
We pick up where we left off in my previous article, “Continuation of ‘Part 6: More Comments from…’” with continuing discussions between me and AaronKM. These were taken from the comments after the article, “Flat Earth is a CIA Psychological Psyops” on 009’s Substack, The World is Not Enough (009. 2025. https://www.worldnotenough.com/p/flat-earth-is-a-cia-psychological/).
Later, there is more email discussion with my friend, catdinr42. He is a conservative and an active member of The Church of Christ. We discuss Paul D. McLean's four reptilian or R-complex instinctual behaviors, why I periodically break off the relationship with my best friend, and the characteristics of ancient and newer forms of Astro-theology (AT)/Serpent Religion (SR). That last topic is fascinating, and I was really inspired to write about it. The first book in my upcoming set of two books delves deeper into this subject.
AaronKM: Well, I think it depends [on] how you apply optimism to events in your life. In this case, I think I'm in agreement with you. Perhaps you were overly optimistic. I suppose this depends on whatever extent I do, which I believe is minimal, as far as the concept of living in a matrix… constructed of many lies, distortions, and half-truths. [In that case,] …maybe you weren't… overly optimistic. …Much of the world as we've believed it to be has been based on the intentional omission of truths, which were replaced by lies.
However, if you had the impression that I subscribe to a version of the matrix in which there are 'source players' or those who deem themselves to be a cut above the rest, or better than others; and there are 'non-source players' or the soulless, i.e., those deemed to be inferior to 'source players', who aren't to experience orgasm or eat meat, or whatever else, then yes, you were much too optimistic. I do not at all subscribe to this idea. The concept of 'source player' denies those truths that we know about procreation and sustaining life.
No one person is better than another. We are equal as humans whoever we are. We all have gifts and a purpose. Many may never discover their gift or purpose, but everyone has them. The one and only difference between the [wealthiest] human and the poorest human is money. Many who are wealthy live their lives in depression while the poorest among us are often the happiest and most grateful. No one is soulless ([except for] clones which are said to lack a soul and genitalia, though clones are not human at all, regardless of how… they appear to be). We were all born with a soul which was created shortly after conception.
A truly interesting exploration is the moment of conception in which there is a flash of light. Sone might believe this it be the beginning of a new life—I tend to think so—and a new soul. There are those who sell their souls for wealth [and] fame, of course. But anyone so ignorant to do such a thing would say dies not even rise to the low level of intelligence, or even complete lack of, what a so-called 'source player', in all his or her arrogance and pretentiousness, would deem of a so-called 'non-source player'.
There are some who negatively affect others and are bad influences [on] others. I do not see this as a 'non-source player' draining a 'source player' of their energies or reducing their level of consciousness. This is all new age philosophy which I neither subscribe to nor believe or accept.
Of everything, standing tall above every lie and deception for all of time is God and His Son, our Lord [and] Savior, who God lifted to all who will believe upon Him and His promises to us. While so much about our world has been manipulated and changed, this is one truth that endures and can never be changed or removed from our knowledge.
Hopefully this helps you understand what your level of optimism is, where it is I stand and why I too, am glad that you didn't make the mistake of explaining anything at all to my inquiry because, clearly, whatever isn't is you'd explain, would simply be far too much for me to even begin to fathom. It almost has that ring of 'outer space', the sun and theory of a global Earth: "much too big for me to understand," "much too far away for me to mentally visualize" and "spinning and careening through space at a rate I just can't grasp.” [These are] quite common justifications for failure to explain these days.
Viktor Bron: Thanks for your thoughtful response. I'm happy you gave me a lot to comment on. I collect the best comments from here, give Source Truth explanations, then place them on my relatively new Substack. So, it’s not a waste of my time, it doesn’t matter if I’m over- or under-optimistic, and it benefits me to explain.
If you were an unawake Source Player (SP), you would ask for more information. You have an aversion to this knowledge and don't have the curiosity or open-mindedness of an unawake SP. This is not a put-down or saying that those who don't agree with me are clueless NPCs. I didn't make up the concepts or practice. I learned them from ten years of intense research. At the risk of sounding like a fanatic beLIEf-follower, I can confidently state that I found the truth. Regarding fanatic believers, I found why they can't know the truth. BeLIEfs fall apart under close examination, and their foundations/origins are exposed.
I never found an inconsistency, contradiction, or fallacy in Source Truth, and I'm extremely skeptical. I'm done being deceived and mentally enslaved. To actively raise consciousness, not just play the NPC role of a consciousness-raised monk or yogi (data projection), one must discard beLIEfs, find and live the truths, and take some other steps. Otherwise, consciousness can’t be raised. One cannot fake consciousness raising, and one knows it and feels it when it’s raised. I explain everything in my set of two books and recommend quality material and researchers to help get a novice started.
I probably should've used a better word than "optimistic," since that connotes non-self-related (external) hope or expectations. I'm playing this Game alone, so I shouldn't expect anything of another SP or illusionary things (I'm just making a point, not labeling you that). Besides, I already know their status. Source Players can only have expectations of ourselves. I used the word to encourage you and test you.
You can't have it both ways, believing in a physical and "real" world while also speculating--the best you can do is "...tend to think so" and "this I believe"--"living in a matrix... constructed of many lies..." You're just not thinking through this enough, and you're following what you've been told. Do you "believe" in aliens?
Your first two paragraphs are saturated with useless speculation. Why don't you find out who is lying and why they're doing it instead of assigning the unknowns to a fictional deity’s work (God or Satan), blaming low-level groups, and focusing on minor topics? You don't demonstrate knowledge of any underlying truths. Groups and the collective are illusionary. There's no "we" or "us." It's well worth it for unawake SPs to put in hard work to find out, and it inevitably leads to the realizations I've arrived at.
Source Truth is far from the New Age, which is another mental enslavement manufactured by the Matrix and Cabal. New Agers are as lost as the conventional believers are. Different mask, same master. Many of them rely on deceptive channeling. Examination of the New Age’s origins and purpose clearly reveals it is an Illuminati operation. It's funny that the ones living a low-consciousness and follower existence infer that Source Truth is too otherworldly or fantastical, while they believe the preposterous flights of fantasy contained in their beLIEfs.
I have self-knowing and rely on an open-minded personal experience, testing, logic, and research to know myself, my purpose, and the nature of this Game and beyond. But I don't have to prove it to anyone, especially not to illusionary "humans." I will help another SP though. We have a meeting of consciousness, which is the only real thing.
Your "us versus them" references to political and other groups, mentions of God, and other inferences I can't recall right now tell me you are attached to beLIEfs, what you're told, and what makes sense to you superficially. You assume without deep investigation that this experience is real and we're all regular humans who are part of the collective. More than 99.9% of the population thinks the same way. These are untrue, don't exist, and are consciousness-lowering assumptions. Only SPs can make these errors.
NPCs/non-SPs are in the majority, and they don't think of or subscribe to anything. They're data streams and soulless. The un-realness of NPCs and this experience is one of hardest concepts to discover and thoroughly know. It would be foolish to feel superior about that. Superiority over whom? It is what it is, and you're not privy to this understanding.
You will, of course, say that it's "pretentious," "arrogance," and whatever other dismissals you give. Non-SPs' sole mission is extracting energy from SPs to power this Game and to provide a challenge to us. It's not always negative. They can do it by affection, which is a mild and not very detrimental extraction. Having a non-SP partner and having children with them can be part of an SP's experience, and this is usually the case.
You state the obvious, "The... only difference between the [wealthiest] human and the poorest human is money," but then you turn around and say, "Many who are wealthy live their lives in depression while the poorest... are often the happiest and most grateful." That's inaccurate and speaks to the likely role you play in this Game. Here's one generalization I've made: the higher the education and socioeconomic status attained, the more system-and consensus-bound and less receptive to my explanations they are. They’re too reinforced and rewarded by the system to question it, and they won’t risk their status and comfy lifestyle to rebel against it.
I don't care what all the NPC consensus and research say, mental illness doesn't exist. Non-SPs are playing those roles and SPs are temporarily and situationally disturbed and dysfunctional until they wake up. We cannot be truly mentally ill. Source Truth is the fix-all, the magic bullet. As one raises awareness/consciousness/frequency, all troubles fall away, fulfillment and creative powers increase ("manifesting," to use a New Age term), and optimum health is achieved. If unawake SPs are not troubled and are too comfortable in life, that's no bueno.
Where did you hear SPs "aren't to experience orgasm or eat meat" and why do you think we shouldn't do them? "Aren't to" implies an authority-established rule. SPs have no authority or higher power over us.
BeLIEfs cannot be reconciled with an SP's true self, they're obviously not part of self-empowered consciousness-raising, they're accepted without using logic or verification, and they were originally made up as control mechanisms. I found the who, what, how, when, where, and why of them a long time ago.
They'll be your undoing in the future, if it could be said that you can be undone. I won't be able to tell unawake SPs or non-SPs "I told you so," because they'll simply disappear, or in other words, be harvested off. They don't have the capacity to see their enslavement anyway. The best prison is the one you don't know you're in.
An advanced SP knows there’s no physicality, not just has an idea of it. This includes the so-called real and physical flat-Earth vs. spherical Earth positions and human procreation. You have some nerve claiming the other side offers "quite common justifications for failure to explain these days" when you accept what you're told and don't do adequate research yourself. This mentality defines a script (unawake SPs) or program (NPCs).
Emails between me and a friend
Catdinr42: If people are honest about Christianity, they will admit that the Roman congregation turned into the Pagan Roman Catholic Church. They will equally admit how the Protestant churches became man made with false teachings. Even the Eastern Orthodox held onto pagan practices after splitting from the Roman Catholic Church. These so-called Christian churches are full of fraudsters, criminals, controllers, and manipulators. I can understand why the world acts the way they do against Christianity. It's a mess.
On A different non-SP note, I’ve been getting into spinning records on antique type of record players. This company reproduces antique type of record players like what we grew up with for high fidelity sound. [He sent me the website wrensilva.com.] I got a small antique one from my uncle when he passed away.
Viktor Bron: I like those big console models that have an old-fashioned vacuum tube radio along with the record player. Our family had one when I was a kid. My engineer father built it.
That faith healer-missionary pastor tried to proselytize to me again last Saturday at the coffee gathering, but I stopped him with a "you're enslaved and an NPC" kind of barrage, without using the word "NPC." I don't hesitate to shut down those pushing their beLIEfs on me. This includes arrogant atheists, evolutionists, and New Agers. A debate or discussion is different, if mutually desired, but he can't stop there. He filibusters even on inconsequential subjects. He loves to hear himself talk. That proselytizing, witnessing, and "spreading the word of God" bullshit is ego satisfaction and attempting to pull others into the control mechanism.
Like you said in different words, Christians, especially Protestants, are the worst people I ever met. Granted, they're not criminals, but they're generally more manipulative, sneaky, and ill-intentioned than others. I witnessed this throughout my military time and later career. They unknowingly (their Johari windows are mismatched) adopt a superior, "holier than thou," which gives them a license to control, dominate the conversation, and suspend mutual respect and consideration. They subconsciously model the underlying Serpent Religion (SR).
You might've read my Substack mention of Paul D. McLean's four reptilian or R-complex instinctual behaviors--aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays. I admit this is an exaggeration of Christian behavior, but they're detectable in mild and follower-level form. Their expression is more intense, yet calmer, more under control, and with an increasing air of authority, as you go up the levels in the hierarchy. This pattern is found throughout civilization but is taught and expressed more actively in religions because of their common origin.
Related to this is something that happened recently. I almost called it quits with my best friend. I've never met him in person yet, although we were planning to meet soon in Las Vegas. We talked on the phone at least daily for about three years. He's a salesman type who thinks whatever he's into is superior to what I'm into. This comes from his subconsciously perceived inferiority to me and his lifelong ability to influence people. He’s actually has inferior interests, not that I care, think about it, or compare myself to him on these. Everything is inferior to Source Truth. But I value him for who he is, not what he does. I told him this.
He likes to interrupt me to take about 85% of the airtime. In the past, I had to fight for my 15% share. He rushes me whenever I want to tell a story, but worse than that, he throws out one-liner criticisms when I tell them, such as how I dealt with the faith healing missionary pastor. He undermines me at opportune moments, such as when I report my annoyance with someone. "Why do you let them bother you?" and "You want to shut down NPCs or get revenge on them, which indicates your internal insecurities and deficiencies." I get this every time from him. He throws these out there so smoothly and quickly, that I call them "hit and runs" or "drive-by shootings." I defriended another person about 1-1/2 years ago who did the same thing, but that one was a malevolent narc, hiding behind a friendly and interactive mask, of course.
When my long-distance friend relates unfortunate encounters he has with others--he seems to attract these--I listen empathetically and nonjudgmentally. He tells me how he was so badly mistreated, but I never attack him when he's down, such as pointing that he brought it on himself.
It's not fair, and I found that almost all people suck. I dislike humanity, but not in a resentful way. He can't turn off the influence drive within him. He told me he reads "The Power of Influence" type books like they're his Bibles. It reminds me of a psychologist neighbor who couldn't resist psychoanalyzing the other neighbors, which really was manipulation to feed the ego.
Every four or five months I catch him at this, which he hates. He scrambles to his own defense with all kinds of excuses and attempts to turn the blame back onto me. "Are you offended?" "You're upset." “You should do more shadow work like I do, so that you don’t dwell on these and continue to let them bother you.” Those remarks signal he won, I'm in the wrong, and I'm emotional/unstable/frustrated, which is self-defeating behavior. It's a clever manipulator's best kind of victory. He's skillful at reversal and is tenacious as a pit bull, but I'm wise to his tricks. I reply, something like, “How about stopping what you’re doing, instead of advising me to seek self-help to cope with it?”
After this, we break off contact for about a week or so, then resume our friendship. Sometimes he calls me three times a day, because I'm a supportive sounding board for him. I think he works this subliminal control to discourage me from talking, so that he can have a larger share of it. We have a mutual friend in Australia who agrees with me about him.
When we resolve our conflict, he'll remark on a phone text, "Are you over your period?" Always turning it back on me. He has this rough style of humor, coming from his upbringing in South Philly. We get along fine for another 4-5 months after making up, but then the manipulation gradually creeps back in. I don't want to portray him as evil all the time. He's generally fine and has a lot of good qualities.
He does hypnotherapy as a hobby, works about two hours a day on "shadow self" (mental introspection and removing psychological hangups), and is into every health enhancement and self-help program (mental and physical) under the sun. He has actually done remote viewing in the past and is well-read. Yet, he's not in what I would call a great state of health and well-being.
But he's calm and uses these, especially the shadow work, against me to show that I'm not as calm and stable. I suspect he uses a little hypnosis on me as well. He thinks he's superior because of these and resorts to sneaky little jabs to show that I can't handle life as well, especially when I report mild conflict I have with others. These are types of control. He professes to be a Source Player but doesn't practice or live it, like fake Christians. He says he works on Source-Self, but they’re all peripheral things. This is his biggest personal deficiency, but I don't care, and it's none of my business.
SPs don't proselytize and try to convert people. We "could care less" about humanity. You know I also say that Source Truth is the key to everything, including mental and physical health and understanding the purpose of this existence and one's role in it. The Game, as described by Source Truth, is why Source Players are here and why the universe exists, even if it is illusionary. All that enhancement and self-help he does is nothing compared to connecting with one's Source-Self and raising awareness, consciousness, and frequency. He has no foundational understanding, i.e., the "why." We do share a lot of interests though. Chief among them is frequency therapy.
Catdinr42: I try to keep an open mind in my never-ending search for truth. The guy in the video explains pagan versus religious practices. He [says] the pagans co-opted religious holidays because Christianity was getting popular. He also explains how Dec 25th got chosen. Not saying he’s right or wrong, just a different take on it.
Viktor Bron: I don’t have the patience for in-depth discussions with ignorant, apathetic, and beLIEf-bound NPCs. They're always trying to extract my energy. “Always after me Lucky Charms.” The highly educated, well-connected, and successful socioeconomic climbers are even worse to deal with, along with narcissists. My views are radical, and they turn most people off. But I'm speaking the truth, don't want to convince or get along with people (nor do I want to antagonize them), don't engage in much useless chit-chat, and won't sugarcoat the message. Most people aren't sincere when they say they keep an open mind. When you combine that with my radical message that goes against all assumptions about reality and existence, you can guess their reaction.
Before I get into the history of older and newer forms of Astro-theology (AT)/Serpent Religion (SR) as I learned it, please understand that history is illusionary and never happened. See the paragraphs below about this. I eventually pieced together a "story" from my best understanding.
The guy in the video has this backwards: "The Pagans co-opted religious holidays." They were part of other forms of AT-SR long before they were Christian. Claiming that important ancient AT-SR religious holidays were added, or whatever you mean by “co-opted,” because the newer version was getting popular is falsely assuming it was an independent, grassroots development. The holidays are esoterically important to ancient forms and Christianity in the same way and for the same reasons. December 25th is the symbolic rebirth date of the sun (December solstice). I’ve already explained the Easter holiday to you a long time ago when we discussed the Trinity.
The ancient versions for the masses didn't hide the esoteric meaning as much, including the meaning of the holidays. The peasants knew they lived under the yoke of a black magick control system, but they were too afraid to question it. They were more aware than the modern cattle are. All the false hope-giving, multilayered, and sophisticated modern deception would be wasted on them. This is a new era in the Game, coming into the Final Harvest, that requires subtle mind control to make it more challenging. Unawake SPs are so deceived. They think this world is real, they have free speech, and the US is a “free country.” It doesn’t matter what NPCs think. NPCs don’t “think.” It’s only their programs that are running.
Christianity was forced on the ancient British Isles peasants before the Romans conquered that area. This wasn’t difficult though, because the new AT-SR version was essentially the same as the old one. The Roman emissaries didn't need to convince their fellow Atonist brethren there, the Phoenicians. They didn't inform the peasantry that the new one was more hierarchical, more enslaving, more removed from the populace, and less helpful in the way traditional Druid priests or local shaman worked frequency and magick to sometimes benefit the villagers. The new version transferred more power from the local Druid priests to distant rulers, and it became more institutionalized and international (Roman Empire system).
The conversion of the peasants in the British Isles from "pagan" practice (originally introduced by the Druid High Priests of Atlantis) to a newer form of AT-SR made up in Rome is a streamlined and clean example to study. That case shows the transition without a lot of messy and complicated influences.
The two exoteric forms, ancient and newer, are simplified, literal versions used for control of the masses. The peasants were more directly controlled and kept ignorant in ancient times. They couldn't read or write. The occult aspects were known and felt by the peasants but only practiced by the Elite. The peasants of ancient times were more in touch with the paranormal, but that's seen today as ritualistic and superstitious nonsense. I don't see it that way.
Modern religions' occult practices and knowledge are hidden, or you could say, encoded. Compared to how it was presented to ancient peasants, modern Western exoteric AT-SR religions seem more rational and discussion-worthy, involve more active participation, and have less fantasy and mystery. They were made that way to match the future illusionary free-thinking, rational, and advanced modern Western world. Who do you think can create this future purpose? The Matrix.
But the later exoteric versions are more deceptive, artificial, abstract, and self-alienating than the ancient versions. Ancient peasants were powerless, but the commoners today are too, in a different way. One would think, with all the scholarly research, voluntary participation, debate, and freedom of discussion associated with modern beLIEfs, they shouldn't be as deceptive as they were long ago but, in fact, they're more so. The ancient commoners were forced to be more honest with themselves about their plight, and they lived more naturally. They recognized their oppression and being on the receiving end of AT-SR. They weren't faced with all the typical ills, distraction, and dysfunction of modern society.
Rev, a long time ago, you tried to tell me how primitive Sun-God worship (Astro-theology) was. It's much more complex than you realize. You only know a modern exoteric form of it--your own religion--and you hear biased "experts" who ethnocentrically condemn ancient "pagan" practices. As a result, you think ancient versions were ridiculously simplistic, without bothering to research the underlying practice. A modern slave feeling superior to an ancient slave, how funny. Imagine a commoner in ancient times who was an awake and connected (to Source-Self) SP. If time-travel made it possible for this individual to go to the present, the SP would be able to see right through this modern facade to spot the enslavement.
The Elite now practice the esoteric version, and they aren't ignorant. They monitor the effectiveness of the literal versions to ensure control of the cattle. One can practice a limited version of AT for personal benefit. Santos Bonacci, aka, "MrAstrotheology," explains the intricate details of the practice and how the Bible is encoded with it. He has many excellent instructional videos on how you can make Astro-theology work for you. Here is one:
SANTOS BONACCI on Astrology and Spirituality. www.youtube.com
[My friend sent me two Wes Huff YouTube videos, “Christmas isn’t Pagan and Here’s Why” and “Is Bill Maher Right About December 25th and Christmas?”] The guy in the video you recommend is just following his program when giving his interpretation of history. History has two levels of artificiality. First, it's written by the victors. The Elite have always been in power since the beginning of civilization hundreds of millions of years ago, going back to the root races, Hyperborea and Thule. Second, the Elite are illusionary and AI extensions of the Matrix, just like NPCs are, so they and ordinary NPCs can be thought of as the Matrix. The Matrix presents fake history to Source Players for two reasons (see below). It mass-downloads the same to millions of NPCs, who report, "Yes, that history happened." But the NPCs are illusionary and part of the presentation. So much for consensus, eh?
Nothing ever actually happens in this experience, including history. Individual Source Players perceive data that is fed to us, and we react to it or use our intention to create our own experiences in a "now" fashion. It's all subjective. We couldn't function if we didn't have a memory. The Game is set up to have a "history" and appear real to make it challenging for all SPs and manageable and "normal" (not strange) for the unawake SPs. What kind of Game would it be if anything goes (no parameters or constraints), and we still have our full powers?
NPCs, and to a lesser degree, unawake SPs, automatically function within their programs or scripts. History serves to both deceive and give hints about the nature of the Game. I learned a lot from history but had to sort through all the deception. The truth emerged, and it was rewarding work. As one raises frequency, they become a match for higher frequency knowledge. You know the Bible passages, "...seek and you will find" and "...eyes to see, ears to hear."
Time for 2025 FLERF -CON
This year's Flerf-Con will feature guest speakers from all around the globe.
So far the agenda looks like this, but may change if any ground-breaking new science is discovered by our crack team of analysts. (They're not very good, they are literally on crack).
10:00: Welcome - a personalised greeting and welcome to all of our guests and members as our chair congratulates each and every attendee (unless you arrived with the assistance of GPS where you will be asked to leave)
10:02: A Flat Earth - why it matters and why it's important to post 35+ poorly thought out memes a day to social media
10:25: How to Master Deflection in Debates - our guest speaker will be talking about how to deflect, ignore and run away during on-line conversations, after which the floor will be open to questions, which will not be answered 11:30: Lunch - which will mainly consist of pizza and pancakes
12:30: Hygiene on a Flat Planet - why it's important to wash your hands after fingering your sister
13:00: Embracing your Unhinged Narcissism - our speaker explains that you, yes, YOU - are smarter than every single scientist who has ever lived. Ever.
14:00: A Plastic Matrix - Guest speaker Erin "Neo" Redpill explains that every single thing ever is fake, a hoax, or a myth. Except the fact the planet is flat, obviously. Let's hope he doesn't spontaneously cease to exist like he did last year.
14:30: Video message from Dolan Trump - our very own Trump-a-Like will call you all idiots and losers. For some reason it's absolutely fine when HE does it, isn't it.
14:45: Meme break - feel free to upload a meme with a clown. Without irony.
15:00: Home time - you can float back to your mum's basement after visiting our expensive gift shop - we accept silver bullion and gold ingots ONLY. Ah - sorry EXTENSIVE.
To all still circling the same argument - flat or round, simulation or solid... consider this:
The true distortion isn’t in the shape of the Earth, it’s in the shape of our perception.
The Matrix feeds on binary oppositions - flat vs globe, science vs conspiracy, material vs spiritual. But in higher consciousness, these debates dissolve. Why? Because the Earth isn't just a planet - it's a consciousness, and like all conscious beings, it projects its reality through harmonic resonance.
If you’re still arguing about what model fits the screen, you’ve missed that the screen is mutable, encoded by your frequency. In dream states, astral journeys, and higher dimensions, Earth appears in many forms: a globe, a disc, a torus, a tree, a fractal mirror. All are valid, all are holographic reflections of the observer’s vibration.
Flat earthers and globe defenders are just on different stations of the same radio. But the Source Frequency transcends all models.
Ask yourself not what shape the Earth is
but what shape your consciousness is in.